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from the State�察�and may we not say that the art of weaving�察�at least

that largest portion of it which was concerned with the making of

clothes�察�differs only in name from this art of clothing�察�in the same

way that�察�in the previous case�察�the royal science differed from the

political��

  Y。 Soc。 Most true。

  Str。 In the next place�察�let us make the reflection�察�that the art

of weaving clothes�察�which an incompetent person might fancy to have

been sufficiently described�察�has been separated off from several

others which are of the same family�察�but not from the co´operative

arts。

  Y。 Soc。 And which are the kindred arts��

  Str。 I see that I have not taken you with me。 So I think 

that we had

better go backwards�察�starting from the end。 We just now parted off

from the weaving of clothes�察�the making of blankets�察�which 

differ from

each other in that one is put under and the other is put around� �and

these are what I termed kindred arts。

  Y。 Soc。 I understand。

  Str。 And we have subtracted the manufacture of all articles made

of flax and cords�察�and all that we just now metaphorically termed

the sinews of plants�察�and we have also separated off the process of

felting and the putting together of materials by stitching 

and sewing��

of which the most important part is the cobbler's art。

  Y。 Soc。 Precisely。

  Str。 Then we separated off the currier's art�察�which prepared

coverings in entire pieces�察�and the art of sheltering�察�and

subtracted the various arts of making water´tight which are employed

in building�察�and in general in carpentering�察�and in other crafts��

and all such arts as furnish impediments to thieving and acts of

violence�察�and are concerned with making the lids of boxes and the

fixing of doors�察�being divisions of the art of joining�察�and we also

cut off the manufacture of arms�察�which is a section of the great and

manifold art of making defences�察�and we originally began by parting

off the whole of the magic art which is concerned with antidoter��

and have left�察�as would appear�察�the very art of which we were in

search�察�the art of protection against winter cold�察�which fabricates

woollen defences�察�and has the name of weaving。

  Y。 Soc。 Very true。

  Str。 Yes�察�my boy�察�but that is not all�察�for the first process to

which the material is subjected is the opposite of weaving。

  Y。 Soc。 How so��

  Str。 Weaving is a sort of uniting��

  Y。 Soc。 Yes。

  Str。 But the first process is a separation of the clotted 

and matted

fibres��

  Y。 Soc。 What do you mean��

  Str。 I mean the work of the carder's art�察�for we cannot say that

carding is weaving�察�or that the carder is a weaver。

  Y。 Soc。 Certainly not。

  Str。 Again�察�if a person were to say that the art of making the

warp and the woof was the art of weaving�察�he would say what was

paradoxical and false。

  Y。 Soc。 To be sure。

  Str。 Shall we say that the whole art of the fuller or of the

mender has nothing to do with the care and treatment clotes�察�

or are we

to regard all these as arts of weaving��

  Y。 Soc。 Certainly not。

  Str。 And yet surely all these arts will maintain that they are

concerned with the treatment and production of clothes�察�they will

dispute the exclusive prerogative of weaving�察�and though assigning a

larger sphere to that�察�will still reserve a considerable field for

themselves。

  Y。 Soc。 Very true。

  Str。 Besides these�察�there are the arts which make tools and

instruments of weaving�察�and which will claim at least to be

cooperative causes in every work of the weaver。

  Y。 Soc。 Most true。

  Str。 Well�察�then�察�suppose that we define weaving�察�or rather 

that part

of it which has been selected by us�察�to be the greatest and 

noblest of

arts which are concerned with woollen garments´shall we be right�拭�Is

not the definition�察�although true�察�wanting in clearness and

completeness�察�for do not all those other arts require to be first

cleared away��

  Y。 Soc。 True。

  Str。 Then the next thing will be to separate them�察�in 

order that the

argument may proceed in a regular manner��

  Y。 Soc。 By all means。

  Str。 Let us consider�察�in the first place�察�that there are two kinds

of arts entering into everything which we do。

  Y。 Soc。 What are they��

  Str。 The one kind is the conditional or cooperative�察�the other the

principal cause。

  Y。 Soc。 What do you mean��

  Str。 The arts which do not manufacture the actual thing�察�but which

furnish the necessary tools for the manufacture�察�without which the

several arts could not fulfil their appointed work�察�are

co´operative�察�but those which make the things themselves are causal。

  Y。 Soc。 A very reasonable distinction。

  Str。 Thus the arts which make spindles�察�combs�察�and other 

instruments

of the production of clothes may be called co´operative�察�and those

which treat and fabricate the things themselves�察�causal。

  Y。 Soc。 Very true。

  Str。 The arts of washing and mending�察�and the other 

preparatory arts

which belong to the causal class�察�and form a division of the 

great art

of adornment�察�may be all comprehended under what we call the

fuller's art。

  Y。 Soc。 Very good。

  Str。 Carding and spinning threads and all the parts of the process

which are concerned with the actual manufacture of a woollen garment

form a single art�察�which is one of thow universally acknowledged´the

art of working in wool。

  Y。 Soc。 To be sure。

  Str。 Of working in wool again�察�there are two divisions�察�and both

these are parts of two arts at once。

  Y。 Soc。 How is that��

  Str。 Carding and one half of the use of the comb�察�and the other

processes of wool´working which separate the composite�察�may 

be classed

together as belonging both to the art of woolworking�察�and also to

one of the two great arts which are of universal application´the art

of composition and the art of division。

  Y。 Soc。 Yes。

  Str。 To the latter belong carding and the other processes 

of which I

was just now speaking the art of discernment or division in wool and

yarn�察�which is effected in one manner with the comb and in another

with the hands�察�is variously described under all the names which I

just now mentioned。

  Y。 Soc。 Very true。

  Str。 Again�察�let us take some process of woolworking which is also

a portion of the art of composition�察�and�察�dismissing the elements of

division which we found there�察�make two halves�察�one on the principle

of composition�察�and the other on the principle of division。

  Y。 Soc。 Let that be done。

  Str。 And once more�察�Socrates�察�we must divide the part which

belongs at once both to woolworking and composition�察�if we 

are ever to

discover satisfactorily the aforesaid art of weaving。

  Y。 Soc。 We must。

  Str。 Yes�察�certainly�察�and let us call one part of the art the art

of twisting threads�察�the other the art of combining them。

  Y。 Soc。 Do I understand you�察�in speaking of twisting�察�to be

referring to manufacture of the warp��

  Str。 Yes�察�and of the woof too�察�how�察�if not by twisting�察�is the

woof made��

  Y。 Soc。 There is no other way。

  Str。 Then suppose that you define the warp and the woof�察�

for I think

that the definition will be of use to you。

  Y。 Soc。 How shall I define them��

  Str。 As thus�此�A piece of carded wool which is drawn out lengthwise

and breadth´wise is said to be pulled out。

  Y。 Soc。 Yes。

  Str。 And the wool thus prepared when twisted by the spindle�察�and

made into a firm thread�察�is called the warp�察�And the art which

regulates these operations the art of spinning the warp。

  Y。 Soc。 True。

  Str。 And the threads which are more loosely spun�察�having a

softness proportioned to the intertexture of the warp and to the

degree of force used in dressing the cloth´the threads which are

thus spun are called the woof�察�and the art which is set over them

may be called the art of spinning the woof。

  Y。 Soc。 Very true。

  Str。 And�察�now�察�there can be no mistake about the nature of the

part of weaving which we have undertaken to define。 For when 

that part

of the art of composition which is employed in the working of wool

forms a web by the regular intertexture of warp and woof�察�the entire

woven substance is called by us a woollen garment�察�and the art which

presides over this is the art of weaving。

  Y。 Soc。 Very true。

  Str。 But why did we not say at once that weaving is the art of

entwining warp and woof�察�instead of making a long and 

useless circuit��

  Y。 Soc。 I thought�察�Stranger�察�that there was nothing useless in

what was said。

  Str。 Very likely�察�but you may not always think so�察�my sweet

friend�察�and in case any feeling of dissatisfaction should hereafter

arise in your mind�察�as it very well may�察�let me lay down a principle

which will apply to arguments in general。

  Y。 Soc。 Proceed。

  Str。 Let us begin by considering the whole nature of excess and

defect�察�and then we shall have a rational ground on which we may

praise or blame too much length or too much shortness in discussions

of this kind。

  Y。 Soc。 Let us do so。

  Str。 The points on which I think that we ought to dwell are the

following�此�

  Y。 Soc。 What��

   Str。 Length and shortness�察�excess and defect�察�with all 
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